Me: Do you think that Univ. of Illinois was better 10 years or so ago ?
Bus Driver: I tell you what; according to me, all universities were better 10 years ago, and they were even better 20 years ago.
Me: O, why do you say so?
Bus Driver: There is a great reduction in the line of independent thought; the only thing we have left are all the research guys and PhD guys coming out; society is far less liberal
Me: (Horrified) I tell you this from the perspective of an outsider; even though you may say that America is far less independent and liberal, for many of us, America does signify freedom of thought and liberty which is not seen so easily outside America.
Bus Driver: May be. The one thing is that I keep worrying about are my kids and my children's children, because as I see it, society is going down the drain and the people of America in the future will be forced to pay this price. I really don't take any political sides, I just want to live my life as long as people don't interfere. But when something wrong is happening, I would love to stand up.
Me: There is a very thin line between apathy and indifference.
Bus Driver: (Laughter) I am sorry to say this, but most of the people in this country belong to the former.
Me: It was very nice talking to you, have a good day!
Bus Driver: Likewise, have a good day.